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4:54:36

16 tapes

Sources

SOURCE 1 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.sbd.miller.106070.flac16

Source:

SBD -> Master Reel -> PCM -> Roland SRC-2 -> Dat (48k)

Lineage:

Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
-- All disc changes are seamless
-- Thanks to Joe Samaritano for the Dat

SOURCE 2 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.126239.mtx-redo.eichorn.sbeok.t-flac16

Source:

2 Source Matrix from Source 1: SBD (shnid=106070) Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> PCM -> Roland SRC-2 -> Dat (48k); Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC and Source 2: AUD (shnid=91766) Analog Audience Source: FOB Master Cassettes (MAC); Medium Stock Brands: MAC = 3 x Maxell UD XL II C90; Analog

Taper Notes:

View NotesI released a version of this show on September 30, 2013.  I'm released a new version now.  Why?  Because I decided that at least some of my matrixes have too much AUD in the mix.  It's an easy trap to fall into.  So here's a new, less AUD-heavy version of my earlier matrix.  (I've also done some remastering.)

FRESH LEGS, VOL. 5  (Matrix)

www.facebook.com/freshdeadlegs/

General Notes:

- Thanks go to everyone who worked on and made available the sources used in this matrix.  Obviously, this project would have been impossible without their prior efforts.

- For my money, 07/08/78 is a top-ten all-time show, perhaps even a top-five.  Whereas a show like Cornell '77 showcases the Dead at a peak of cool, polished professionalism (one they wouldn't approach again until Fall '89-Spring '90), the final show of their Summer '78 tour reveals a group who has traded in cool polish for raw power.  They stomp and tear and growl their way through a setlist that is quietly but pleasantly unusual, down to the double encore, which includes three songs and ends with a rare version of  "Werewolves of London."

The night kicks off with a breakneck "Bertha."  The high energy established in the opener is kept up throughout the first set and into the second, which starts with a shimmering "Samson & Delilah."  But the show catapults to the next level with Bobby's enigmatic pronouncement, "I'm moving to Australia."  What follows is an extraordinary song-cycle that wends from a blistering "Estimated Prophet > Other One > Eyes of the World," through a novel early "Drums/Space," to a tour-de-force combination of "Wharf Rat > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Magnolia."

Then, as though wanting to launch into a whole new set, the boys proceed to trot out a "Terrapin Station" encore.  It may not be the best "Terrapin" they ever played, but even so, it's quite an encore!  And as though it weren't enough, they segue (literally without missing a beat) from "Terrapin" into "One More Saturday Night."  Despite having already played a complete show (and then some!), they stay on for a thumping, guttural "Werewolves of London."  They were obviously enjoying themselves and were in no hurry to leave the stage.

Truly, 07/08/78 is an epic night by any measure.

- Pre-show hilarity.  "The bass isn't working because Phil Lesh is so stoned..."  "Were you yelling 'China Cat' all last night?  Somebody was.  That was you!  I heard you last night, yelling 'China Cat.' Down there."

Source Notes:
- The AUD copy of the second set is missing several chunks of music, as detailed in the source info.  The AUD source was patched with the SBD; naturally, I cut those patches.  The missing chunks are: (1) the first 20 seconds of "Ship of Fools," (2) 10 seconds of "Estimated Prophet," (3) 26 seconds of "Drums," and (4) 12 seconds of "Franklin's Tower."
- The SBD copy is missing about 49 seconds at the end of "Eyes."
- I only retained the empty space between songs that appears on the AUD copy.

Technical Notes
- The sources were remastered and mixed in Logic Pro 9.  Clean-up (mostly of clicks and pops in the AUD) was done using iZotope RX 3 Advanced.  The sets were split in WaveLab LE 7.  SBE's were fixed using Trader's Little Helper.  Conversions to and from .flac, .shn, and .wav were done using dbPowerAmp.
- I speed- and pitch-corrected the AUD source using the iZotope Radius algorithm.  Fine-tune syncing was done in Logic Pro 9.
- I ran the AUD source through iZotope RX's Declip function subsequent to speed-correcting it.
- The SBD source is kind of 'hot,' especially the second set.  I considered trying to cool it down in iZotope RX (with Declip), but in the end I decided that anything I might do to that end would result in a net loss of sound quality.  So the 'hotness' remains.

Roger Eichorn
www.facebook.com/freshdeadlegs/
November 27, 2013

SOURCE 3 OF 12

Matrix by Roger Eichorn

SHNID:

gd1978-07-08.125797.mtx.eichorn.sbeok.t-flac16

Source:

Matrix from Source 1: SBD (shnid=106070) Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> PCM -> Roland SRC-2 -> Dat (48k) Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC and Source 2: AUD (shnid=91766) Analog Audience Source: FOB Master Cassettes (MAC) Medium Stock Brands: MAC = 3 x Maxell UD XL II C90 Analog

Taper Notes:

View NotesGeneral Notes:

- Thanks go to everyone who worked on and made available the sources used in this matrix.  Obviously, this project would have been impossible without their prior efforts.

- For my money, 07/08/78 is a top-ten all-time show, perhaps even a top-five.  Whereas a show like Cornell '77 showcases the Dead at a peak of cool, polished professionalism (one they wouldn't approach again until Fall '89-Spring '90), the final show of their Summer '78 tour reveals a group who has traded in cool polish for raw power.  They stomp and tear and growl their way through a setlist that is quietly but pleasantly unusual, down to the triple encore, which ends with a rare version of "Werewolves of London."

The night kicks off with a breakneck "Bertha."  The high energy established in the opener is kept up throughout the first set and into the second, which starts with a shimmering "Samson & Delilah."  But the show catapults to the next level with Bobby's enigmatic pronouncement, "I'm moving to Australia."  What follows is an extraordinary song-cycle that wends from a blistering "Estimated Prophet > Other One > Eyes of the World," through a novel early "Drums/Space," to a tour-de-force combination of "Wharf Rat > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Magnolia."

Then, as though wanting to launch into a whole new set, the boys proceed to trot out a "Terrapin Station" encore.  It may not be the best "Terrapin" they ever played, but even so, it's quite an encore!  And as though it weren't enough, they segue (literally without missing a beat) from "Terrapin" into "One More Saturday Night."  Despite having already played a complete show (and then some!), they stay on for a thumping, guttural "Werewolves of London."  They were obviously enjoying themselves and were in no hurry to leave the stage.

Truly, 07/08/78 is an epic night by any measure.

- Pre-show hilarity.  "The bass isn't working because Phil Lesh is so stoned..."  "Were you yelling 'China Cat' all last night?  Somebody was.  That was you!  I heard you last night, yelling 'China Cat.' Down there."

Source Notes:

- The AUD copy of the second set is missing several chunks of music, as detailed in the source info.  The AUD source was patched with the SBD; naturally, I cut those patches.  The missing chunks are: (1) the first 20 seconds of "Ship of Fools," (2) 10 seconds of "Estimated Prophet," (3) 26 seconds of "Drums," and (4) 12 seconds of "Franklin's Tower."

- The SBD copy is missing about 49 seconds at the end of "Eyes."

- I only retained the empty space between songs that appears on the AUD copy.

Technical Notes:

- The sources were remastered and mixed in Logic Pro 9.  Clean-up (mostly of clicks and pops in the AUD) was done using iZotope RX 3 Advanced.  The sets were split in WaveLab LE 7.  SBE's were fixed using Trader's Little Helper.  Conversions to and from .flac, .shn, and .wav were done using dbPowerAmp.

- I speed- and pitch-corrected the AUD source using the iZotope Radius algorithm.  Fine-tune syncing was done in Logic Pro 9.

- I ran the AUD source through iZotope RX's Declip function subsequent to speed-correcting it.

- The SBD source is kind of 'hot,' especially the second set.  I considered trying to cool it down in iZotope RX (with Declip), but in the end I decided that anything I might do to that end would result in a net loss of sound quality.  So the 'hotness' remains.

Roger Eichorn
www.facebook.com/freshdeadlegs/
September 30, 2013

SOURCE 4 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.dts.tobin.91875.flac

Source:

SBD (shnid=294) + Audience (shnid=91766)

SOURCE 5 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.sbd.tobin.91871.flac16

Source:

Patched sbd

Taper Notes:

View Notes---------------------------------------------------------
- Mixed by kevtobin@yahoo.com
- FLAC conversion 10-MAY-2008  
---------------------------------------------------------
Audio Patches:

1) At the beginning of soundboard, 11 minutes and 56.291 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source. This includes a Bobby joke while they waited to get Phil's bass started.

2) Between Good Lovin' and Dire Wolf, 13.013 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

3) Between Dire Wolf and El Paso, 1 minute and 01.201 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

4) Between El Paso and It Must Have Been The Roses, 06.233 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

5) Between It Must Have Been The Roses and Minglewood Blues, 16.811 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

6) Between Minglewood Blues and Ramble On Rose, 44.768 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

7) Between Ramble On Rose and Promised Land, 3 minutes and 01.306 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

8) At the beginning of the second set soundboard, 06.010 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

9) Between Ship Of Fools and Estimated Prophet, 14.755 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source.

10) 11 minutes and 40 seconds into Estimated Prophet, 09.855 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source.

11) 09 minutes and 54 seconds into Eyes Of The World, 44.700 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

12) At the start of Wharf Rat, 05.332 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

13) Between Sugar Magnolia and Terripan Station, 1 minutes and 30.000 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

14) Between One More Saturday Night and Werewolves Of London, 28.646 seconds were missing from the soundboard source and was filled in with audio from the audience source.

15) Soundboard was synced using the audience as the reference due to being more consisent and better known lineage. 

Brokedown House Production

SOURCE 6 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.mtx.tobin.91777.flac16

Source:

SBD + AUD Matrix 2 Source Mix(40%-SBD/60%-AUD)

SOURCE 7 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.sbd.carney.fix-88551.88656.sbeok.flac16

Source:

SBD -> ? -> Bootleg CD "The Great Red Rocks"

Lineage:

EAC (in secure mode w/proper offsets) -> FLAC

Taper Notes:

View NotesTHIS IS THE FIXED VERSION. Please do not circulate the previous seed (shn id# 88551). I removed the gap between Space and Wharf Rat as well as the long silences at the end of Sugar Mags and OMSN. I also moved the break between disc 2 and 3 to the beginning of Space because I feel this is a more appropriate spot than the transition between Space and Wharf Rat. Finally, I cleaned up the resulting sbe's and generated new checksums.

I bought this about 15 years ago in a head shop in Burlington, VT, when I was in college there. It came complete with the typical misspelled song titles and pictures that have nothing to do with the actual show, such as shots of Jerry from the 90's, and photos of Brent who obviously wasn't yet with the band. The tracking was really screwy as well. It has absolutely no identifying information such as name of the label or date of release. However, it does sound pretty darn good, in my opinion. 

All I did was rip it, reassemble the tracks into one long .wav file with Wavmerge, and retrack it with Audacity so that the tracks made sense. I think it sounds much better than the only other source available at this time - shnid #294. I don't hear any of the EQ, compression, or noise reduction which is suspected to have been used on that source. I'm not an expert so your mileage may vary. If I knew how to do it properly I would fix the levels, which seem kind of low. Hopefully someone with the skills to do it right will remaster this and make it sound just exactly perfect - or maybe this seed will prompt someone to release an even better source for this spectacular show.

I've compared the two and as far as I can tell this has the same cuts/reel flips as shnid #294. It also sounds like one of the tracks is still missing for the entire encore, with Keith and one of the drummers AWOL.

Seeded by Matt Carney on 11/20/07

SOURCE 8 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.sbd.liberatedboot.88551.sbeok.flac16

Source:

SBD -> ? -> Bootleg CD "The Great Red Rocks"

Lineage:

EAC (in secure mode w/proper offsets) -> FLAC

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes: 

I bought this about 15 years ago in a head shop in Burlington, VT, when I was in college there. It came complete with the typical misspelled song titles and pictures that have nothing to do with the actual show, such as shots of Jerry from the 90's, and photos of Brent who obviously wasn't yet with the band. The tracking was really screwy as well. It has absolutely no identifying information such as name of the label or date of release. However, it does sound pretty darn good, in my opinion. 

All I did was rip it, reassemble the tracks into one long .wav file with Wavmerge, and retrack it with Audacity so that the tracks made sense. I think it sounds much better than the only other source available at this time - shnid #294. I don't hear any of the EQ, compression, or noise reduction which is suspected to have been used on that source. I'm not an expert so your mileage may vary. If I knew how to do it properly I would fix the levels, which seem kind of low. Hopefully someone with the skills to do it right will remaster this and make it sound just exactly perfect - or maybe this seed will prompt someone to release an even better source for this spectacular show.

I've compared the two and as far as I can tell this has the same cuts/reel flips as shnid #294. It also sounds like one of the tracks is still missing for the entire encore, with Keith and one of the drummers AWOL.

Seeded by Matt Carney on 11/17/07

SOURCE 9 OF 12

gd1978-07-08.sbd.hoelter.tetzeli.fix-294.33818.shnf

Source:

SBD> [?]> DAT>CDR

Taper Notes:

View NotesThe following fix was made to this source: the transition between disks 2 and 3 was made seamless.

Bill Tetzeli, btet@adelphia.net
2/14/2006

SOURCE 10 OF 12

View NotesSBD> [?]> DAT> CDR; via Jeff Hoelter; see pub comments for additional notes. [Note: A shntool-fixed-be-sets version of this source is available]

SOURCE 11 OF 12

2:47:03

Taper:

concert recording by John Hicks & Dennis Fong

Transferrer:

Transferred by Andrew F. 10/2022

SHNID:

gd1978-07-08.158405.aud.hicks-fong.flac2448

Lineage:

Maxell XLII's > Nakamichi CR-5A > Edirol FA-66 > Wavelab > CD-Wave (24bit-output) > TLH > FLAC 2448 tagged

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Tight edits, most stand-alone songs clip in & out abruptly.
- Bertha>Good Lovin' was added to the cassette from an alternate (inferior) AUD.
- ID-91766 patches: Eyes 9:16 > 9:25; Space 0:00 > 0:13, 5:35 > 5:43, 5:55 > 5:59; and OMSN 0:02 > 0:05.
- Wind-noise rumbling audible during Werewolves.

SOURCE 12 OF 12

Adan Egert and Kevin Tobin

SHNID:

gd1978-07-08.fob.knight.motb-0068.91766.flac16

Lineage:

MAC >> Nakamichi DR-1 => Grace Design Lunatec V3 [Pre-Only] => Korg MR-1000 >> DSF [1-bit 5.6448 MHz Stereo] >> Korg MR-1000 => Korg AudioGate >> WAV [24/96]

Taper Notes:

View NotesMastering Notes
-- d2t{01,02} - Between "Samson And Delilah" and "Ship Of Fools", 42.181 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source. This includes the first 20 seconds of "Ship Of Fools".
-- d2t{02,03} - Between "Ship Of Fools" and "Estimated Prophet", 14.755 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source.
-- d2t03 - 11 minutes and 40 seconds into "Estimated Prophet", 09.855 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source.
-- d2t06 - 04 minutes and 13 seconds into "Drums", 25.765 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source.
-- d3t03 - 07 minutes and 13 seconds into "Franklin's Tower", 12.374 seconds were missing from the audience source and was filled in with audio from the soundboard source. 

Notes
-- d2t02 - Opening 20 seconds of "Ship Of Fools" missing from the recording; patched with a soundboard source.